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‘Trains: BGs’ Theme Deadline Extended to End of October

Well, I did say I wasn’t going to extend deadlines anymore but this is a bit different.

Ever since collections started staying online and remaining active, new themes have been accumulating tracks more slowly.  With hindsight, this outcome is perhaps obvious – members’ new contributions are getting spread amongst an ever increasing number of themes.  Also, new themes inevitably inspire less urgency to participate before the end of the month when people know that they can join in and grab the collections at a later date when they specifically need them or when they simply have more spare time.

That’s all fine but I think a change is in order to address this ‘imbalance’.  If old themes are still attracting significant interest then perhaps a more steady influx of new themes is necessary.  I’m proposing making themes bimonthly for the time being.

I must admit that, when I’m busy, I do find that the month’s fly by and before I know it (and before I’ve barely had a chance to add a recording) it’s time to come up with a new theme again.  With an extra month for each current theme, I’m hoping it’ll give me more of a chance to explore each subject; posting about my own and other members’ recordings, as well as hopefully making club meetups a more regular occurence (one for every new theme) as well.

Generally, I’m quite a strong believer in the idea of not trying to please everyone otherwise you end up pleasing nobody.  However, on this occasion in particular, I’d be really interested to hear members’ thoughts on this matter so please feel free to leave any comments below.

 

New Solution for Keeping Track of Sounds

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As the club’s collection expands, it’s inevitable that I’m going to need to come up with different solutions to how we can keep all this audio well organized and easily accessible.  I’ve been thinking for a while now about how best to keep members aware of any new contributions that are uploaded – hence the decision to start tweeting all new uploads.  

However, another solution fell into my lap last week via a Soundcloud newsletter which mentioned a new app called Memolane.  I really like Memolane’s design and the way it displays Soundcloud updates so I’ve decided to use it in the BROWSE THE COLLECTION page (in the menu at the top of this page) to showcase all the MP3 samples of contributions as and when they are uploaded (you can still browse by themes as well if you’d rather).

In this way, if members choose to download en masse intermittently, they can now keep track of what’s been added to the collection since their last visit.  Together with the twitter alerts, hopefully members will find it easier than ever to keep up to date with their copies of the club’s collection.  However, besides being a good inventory tool for existing members, I think it’s also an interesting alternative way for new visitors to the site to investigate and audition the collection too.

Hope you like it !

‘Rain’ Theme Reopens!

The Club’s very first theme (from back in November) is now back online for members to start contributing to again.

I’ve re-uploaded any tracks from the old collection that qualify under the current requirements – in other words all those that have some form of vocal ident on.  The contributors of these qualifying tracks have been e-mailed new secret links to the reactivated set and so can gain access immediately.  

Unfortunately, if you originally contributed a track but it hasn’t been re-uploaded then you will need to contribute a new track which meets the current requirements in order to regain access to the set.  If your old track does qualify but you aren’t currently a member of the Club then I’ve got your track on standby ready to add to the set should you join the Club in future.

For those who don’t remember the original brief regarding what sort of rain recordings we’re after, here’s what I originally wrote:

Rather than just ‘rain’, I should perhaps say rain on surfaces, i.e. rain on windows, roofs, pavements, etc. – whatever sounds interesting. Rain on surfaces such as corrugated iron or greenhouses can sound great but in some ways I think it’s a bigger achievement to simply get a great recording of the sound of rain on a window which doesn’t just sound like white noise.

Next up is the old Night and Day set which I’ll try and get re-uploaded as soon as possible too.  Watch this space….

Some Stats…

As many of you will know, one of the good things about Soundcloud (and particularly with the Pro account) is the stats it provides you with regarding your uploaded tracks.  

These stats are particularly interesting with regards to the Club due to it’s international nature.  I haven’t posted any geographical info on club activity for a while so I thought I’d upload the above snapshot for those who may be interested.  UK running tings!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

September’s Theme

The companion collection to June’s theme!  

I must give credit for the inspiration to @EnosDesjardins and @rene_coronado who were discussing on Twitter the other day how train sounds were amongst their favourite background atmos FX.  I wholeheartedly agree so have decided to make it this month’s theme.

This time around, instead of the close, clean detail that was required for June’s ‘Trains: Design’ collection, we need more distant train sounds that are suitable for use in background atmospheres.  Similarly to the requirements I described for the Street Voices’ collection in July, these train sounds need to exhibit more of the acoustic characteristics of their surroundings but cannot be so distant that they are swallowed up by, for example, urban roar.  

The litmus test with these type of FX is whether they still sound good played at low level (as they will be when used in atmospheres).  If there’s a surge of skyline noise when you fade the train sounds in and out then your chosen location is too noisy or the train is too distant.  

Also, does it still sound like a train when played at low level?  I guess you could call this the ‘What the f*%k is that?’ test!  Imagine people who haven’t heard your train recording before, such as a director or producer, hearing it mixed in with the dialogues, music and atmospheres at a dub.  If it is perceived as an indistinguishable clatter or hum rather than as a distant, evocative train pass, it is very likely to get dropped immediately – and quite possibly with the aforementioned expletive question given an airing too!  In short, try to be objective about what your recording can really add to an atmospheres tracklay.

Personally, I intend to visit various overground London transport locations where I’ve noticed interesting acoustics while travelling around over the last year or so.  For example, the train tracks in Acton station lie at the bottom of a deep embankment; a railway bridge I walked under in Chiswick made a great boomy sound as a train passed over and, just today in Richmond, I noticed a train crossing one of the rail bridges over the river that made a really interesting sound too.  

These are just a few London-based ideas I happen to have had.  However, trains are one of the most sonically diverse forms of transport that exist and rail tracks slice through virtually every different form of landscape in the world so the possibilities should be endless.  Good luck with your collecting!


 

 

 

August’s Theme

Quite a simple theme this month after quite a tricky one in July.  So simple in fact, I don’t think it’ll really need much explanation.  

I think it suffices to suggest that you provide some individual rings or buzzes and then a variety of multiple patterns too.  It is really important that you let the reverb tails of your bells or buzzers subside completely before triggering the next ring or buzz (unless you’re doing a multiple ring of course) otherwise their usage becomes very limited.   The only other advice I’ll offer is that for your contribution to be as useful as possible, I would ask that you submit recordings of your chosen bell or buzzer from 3 different recording positions (but submitted as one track):

  1. Exterior, from the POV of the bell ringer
  2. Interior, close / direct (i.e. standing quite near or below it in order to get a clean recording of the bell itself)
  3. Interior, a bit more ambient / indirect (perhaps in the next room along from the bell – not too distant but just far enough away to pick some of your house or flat’s acoustics)

Last of all, please don’t forget to put a vocal ident or slate (including your name) on your recordings otherwise I won’t be able to accept it.  And that’s about it  – let’s get collecting ding dongs and bzzzzzzs!

 

 

New Contributions Will Now Be Tweeted

Just a quick note to let you all know that from now on all new contributions to the Club will be tweeted from the @TheSCClub once I’ve uploaded the audio.

If you follow @TheSCClub then consequently you’ll get to know when there’s new audio that you can download rather then having to randomly check from time to time.  The other benefit is that hopefully it’ll give some non-members a better sense of the activity going on at the Club too.

So, member or non-member, if you’re not yet following @TheSCClub, please do consider doing so because it’ll save you a lot of speculative visits to the Browse The Collection page or any private sets that you have access to.

July’s Theme

The human voice can evoke so much meaning and emotion.  Therefore, it is an invaluable vehicle for expressing the mood of a location.  As a result, this month’s theme is one of my favourite types of sound effect for creating interesting and evocative soundscapes. 

This theme lies somewhere between ‘exterior crowd’ fx and crowd ADR.  It is not general chat or crowd sounds.  It is more specific than that, and should only consist of one or a few people.  It is not crowd ADR, it is more distant and worldized than that.  The voices need to be raised, if not shouting, in order to carry over this distance.  

These type of recordings are perfect for poking through between dialogue to give a scene character.  Using distant voices in this way is a really effective way of controlling the vibe of an environment –  making it seem anything from intimidating or welcoming to posh or slummy.

A couple arguing in a courtyard; a drunk shouting in an alleyway; noisy scaffolders: a baby’s cries heard from an open window; or a few people talking loudly and laughing in the park – these are the sort of sounds I’m after.

Two important points:  

  1. As usual, it is vital that these recordings contain minimal background noise.  They are not atmospheres, they are fx which need to be able to fade in and out without a surge of traffic noise or other general crowd sounds.  
  2. Distance is crucial.  Too close and you are basically recording those people’s conversation.  Consequently, a can of worms is opened with regards to model release forms and privacy infringement, etc.  Instead, you need to be distant enough so that you are indirectly recording the voices.  If you stick a mic out of your window and someone is shouting down the end of the street then I would say that no privacy is infringed and you are ok to use that recording howsoever you please.  In contrast, if you make a stealth recording of a couple having a private, heated conversation in, say, a cafe, then I would argue that you have perhaps invaded their privacy and it could be unwise to start using that recording in commercial projects.  Common sense will hopefully dictate what is suitable, but a good guide is to consider whether you are recording someone actively or passively / directly or indirectly and whether they are imposing their voice on your environment or you are invading their privacy.  On the flip side, it will not be possible to use the recording as spot fx if the voices are too distant because the accompanying noise of the surrounding environment will surge in and out too much. 

One last point:  Please specify where your recordings were made.  It is vital that the title or metadata of these FX reveal what country they are from (and also mention if the location is somewhere where the language may be other than the native tongue, eg. Chinatown!)  

Other than that, good luck with your shout-hunting and I look forward to hearing the results!

June’s Theme

Very excited about this one.  I have two young boys so inevitably I watch quite a lot of kids’ TV at the moment.  There’s a lot of great kids’ shows around these days but one of my boys’ favourites is called Chuggington which I’ve always thought had particularly good sound FX in it.  So, I’m very pleased to announce that this month’s theme has been requested by the show’s sound designer, Richard Spooner:

“So this is another slightly selfish audio topic as I am starting sound design on a new series of “Chuggington” next week, which is a pre-school show about .. eergh .. trains.

I think the sounds that interest me are the more percussive engine sounds, hisses, doppler passes, rail clack etc. We should try and capture the power and speed of a train in the recordings. It could be some fast passes or just the static throbbing tick-over of a diesel or steam engine. It could be air/steam release on braking or the distinctive clickety-clack of a speeding train. We should stay away from station ambiences and commuter interior rides.”

I think an important thing to emphasize is that we need clean, high sample rate recordings of different separate elements of train sounds which would be suitable for use in animation sound design.  There may be exceptions but, on the whole, I’d imagine the recordings need to be relatively close so as to contain as little background atmos as possible.  In this way, I can imagine a separate future theme of, say, distant train FX or simply a more general collection of train sounds which are typically more suitable for standard reality-based film or television drama.

One last point is that it might also be useful for people who plan on contributing to this theme to check out some old episodes of the show if you haven’t seen it before, just so you get a feel for the sort of sounds that Rich might find useful.

Oh, and also bear in mind that Rich starts the show this month so, although the theme will stay open permanently, it’d be great if we could do our best to get a great collection together for him sooner rather than later.  Let’s make this a good one!

Club Meetups, Old and New

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It’s been an intention of mine, ever since I started The Sound Collectors’ Club, to organize a club meetup in London; to create a chance for members to get to know each other better than just virtually over the internet.
 
I finally got round to making this happen for the first time a few weeks ago back in April when the current theme was Echo Space.  As I explained in a post at the time, I ended up choosing the Rotherhithe Tunnel as our glamorous destination and when the agreed upon day arrived I was happy to be joined by @eesn and foster.fog.

I tweeted the above pics throughout the evening; en route to the pub where we met up, I stopped riverside hoping to get some good London skylines.  Unfortunately this proved tricky thanks to the endless flow of pleasureboats blaring music which carried surprisingly far up the river after they had passed by.  No matter, after a swift pint at The Grapes, we headed off to the tunnel.  The results are now uploaded into the Club’s ‘Echo Space’ set if you want to check them out – all 15 minutes of it before we succumbed to the fumes and retreated back to the cleaner confines of The Narrow pub nearby for beer to wash the grit from our mouths!

Many thanks to Georgi and Tom for making the effort to come along; I look forward to hopefully catching up with you both again at future meetups.

Speaking of which, my plan for the next meetup is based around the club’s ‘Wind’ theme which was started a couple of months ago.  This stems from a recent trip to Kew Gardens with the family, where I was struck by the wide variety of trees that were there and, because it was a windy day, how different they all sounded blowing in the breeze.  Kew Gardens is a very big place, so I was thinking that if a few of us met there and each took a separate section of the grounds then there could be the potential to create the mother of all ‘wind in trees’ collections when we pool our results in the club’s ‘Wind’ set!

Kew Gardens

Any feedback on this idea would be much appreciated; as far as I can see, potential problems are as follows:

  1. Choosing a windy day.
  2. Planes.  The day I was there the plane noise was pretty minor.  However flight paths change all the time so there’s no guarantee that this won’t be a problem.
  3. Kew Gardens is pricey to get into (£13.90).

One alternative I’ve found to Kew, if these problems make it an unsuitable location, is Winkworth Arboretum in (or near) Guildford.  This could solve the problem with plane noise (it can’t be worse than West London, surely?!) and is cheaper (£6.20, though you’ll pay more for travel).


If you’re interested, let me know your thoughts in the comments below, like last time, and we’ll take it from there.